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XC Tracer Mini III GPS
Lag-free audio feedback
Conventional variometers have the major flaw of having a lag between the actual climb/sink rate and the audio feedback. XC Tracer Mini III GPS gives a lag free audio feedback due to the use of an accelerometer combined with the barometer. This allows to be way more efficient in thermals, especially in weak conditions. It is possible to customize the audio feedback sound to your taste here !
GPS Logger
XC Tracer Mini III GPS does log an IGC and and KML file in parallel. The IGC files are accepted by F.A.I. for paragliding competitions, and you can look at your track in Google Earth in simply double clicking on a KML file.
Exceptional autonomy
Don’t be surprised not to have to charge it for a full season! There is a lithium polymer battery built in, when fully charged the battery has enough energy to power XC Tracer Mini III GPS for more than 20h hours without sunshine. But since the battery gets charged when it’s exposed to sunlight (even when the device is turned off) by the solar cell you get an almost infinite autonomy! In case it should be necessary you can also charge the battery via the Micro USB cable that got shipped with your vario.
Bluetooth and USB connectivity
The Bluetooth BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) 4.0 module built in allows you to connect the Mini III GPS to your favorite app ( see list here ) on your Android /iOS / e-reader device. A connection over USB is also possible, but it is recommended to use BLE whenever possible. You can configure the BLE strings that you want to send to your phone, tablet or e-reader using a simple configuration file.
Simple
One button and that’s all. You’ll use it to switch on / switch off the device and to choose the volume from 0 (silent) to 3 (loud). Configuration is made via an intuitive text file. If you struggle with the updates or just to access to the XC Tracer memory check out this page .
Flight Log
We highly recommend you the software LogFly ! Intuitive and compatible with XC Tracer. Don’t bother counting your hours anymore. It does everything by itself and provides many interesting statistics.
TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
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XC TRACER MINI III GPS New for 2020 and available NOW !!!
Lag-Free Audio Feedback
Conventional variometers have the major flaw of having a lag between the actual climb/sink rate and the audio feedback. XC Tracer Mini III GPS gives a lag free audio feedback due to the use of an accelerometer combined with the barometer. This allows to be way more efficient in thermals, especially in weak conditions. It is possible to customize the audio feedback sound to your taste here!
GPS Logger
XC Tracer Mini III GPS does log an IGC and and KML file in parallel. The IGC files are accepted by F.A.I. for paragliding competitions, and you can look at your track in Google Earth in simply double clicking on a KML file.
Exceptional Autonomy
Don’t be surprised not to have to charge it for a full season! There is a lithium polymer battery built in, when fully charged the battery has enough energy to power XC Tracer Mini III GPS for more than 20h hours without sunshine. But since the battery gets charged when it’s exposed to sunlight (even when the device is turned off) by the solar cell you get an almost infinite autonomy! In case it should be necessary you can also charge the battery via the Micro USB cable that got shipped with your vario.
Bluetooth and USB Connectivity
The Bluetooth BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) 4.0 module built in allows you to connect the Mini III GPS to your favorite app (see list here) on your Android /iOS / e-reader device. A connection over USB is also possible, but it is recommended to use BLE whenever possible. You can configure the BLE strings that you want to send to your phone, tablet or e-reader using a simple configuration file.
Simple
One button and that’s all. You’ll use it to switch on / switch off the device and to choose the volume from 0 (silent) to 3 (loud). Configuration is made via an intuitive text file. If you struggle with the updates or just to access to the XC Tracer memory check out this page.
Flight Log
We highly recommend you the software LogFly! Intuitive and compatible with XC Tracer. Don’t bother counting your hours anymore. It does everything by itself and provides many interesting statistics.
Technical Specification
Variometer
Advantages of an XC Tracer variometer
Zero lag accuracy
Preferred by top competition pilots, the XC Tracer provides the core much faster due to its accuracy without lag.
The Mini V has the most sensitive internal accelerometer on the market yet. Exact allocation information is transmitted
to XCTrack. If you lose the core, you will find it faster.
Best in class GPS
GPS receives GPS as well as Glosnass and Galileo and thus offers improved positioning compared to conventional GPS instruments.
Solar powered – The Mini V
XC Tracer Mini V will hold its charge for 20 hours in low light.
Light
The Mini V is perfect for competitions through to vol-bivouacs and weighs only 34 grams,
and the XC Tracer Maxx II is also a light version, weighing only 120 g.
IGC and KML logging
XC Tracer is suitable for all competitions and flying in the XC League and outputs both IGC and KML files.
Thermal sniffing
Optional thermal sniffing function for advanced searches.
Fully customizable
Tones, sensitivity, thermal sniffing, and other features are easy to customize – or just download your favorite pilot’s settings.
Complete integration
Links via Bluetooth and USB to XCTrack, FlySkyHy and other leading flight computer apps.
Swiss made
Made in Switzerland, the home of precision instrumentation.
XC Tracer Mini IV GPS
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 21:19 UTC Post subject: Re: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS s.g.h wrote: https://www.xctracer.com/en/76/?oid=1905&lang=en&news_eintragId=195
overpriced, unfortunately or fortunately….. that was the reason to build one ..bosch accelerometers and gps (latest technology both) and around 25 USD from ali… OK printing the house wont be as nice as this one.
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:31 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Its of course your right to deem something pricy or not.
The only thing I can say is, that I up to now for sure haved owned 15-20 varios in my flying career and vario-wise the Mini2GPS that I have is the best of all of them. Its actually the only vario that beeps almost like I feel the air. Older varios always had a delay and other current vario (that Ive tested/owned) seem to not hit the perfect spot as well as the XCTracers.
And this is not about ordering some parts and sticking them together (which of course also requires expertise) but to write the correct lines of code to transform the output oft some senosors into the beeping. And IMO in that part my Mini2GPS and I guess all other XCTracers excell. If one is willing to pay the price of the hours put into such a device is personal however.
My more general approach to such great varios is more, if they are helpful at all. At least for me it feels that since I own the Mini2GPS my senses shifted a bit from my 3-dimensional buttvario to the only onedimensional XCTracer, which increases my dependabiliy on electronics and maybe lessens the (relative) sharpness of my senses.
Before I give this thread yet another twist, just let me say, from my experience with my Mini2GPS Im certain the 4 is also a great product. If its worth your hard earned money is up to be decided individually.
Still it would be intersting to know what the actual change from the Mini3 is. Again just a minor change in hardware?
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 12:25 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Hello Wali, it is not my opinion, it is FACT that a way overpriced. (or we have different point of view)
I can afford to buy it, but more challenge to built one and improve my knowlage and skills…thats the reason I am familiar with the price of the parts. We agree that MiniGPS (doesnt matter which series) are great not just the hardware, also the software. (one thing what is funny for me, the solar panel..16square cm of panel doesnt enough for charge the batt (even if it is small one, 3.6V, 300mA???) one sunny day! count it!
So all parts together cost less than 50 CHF for sure, if producing more and sell for less money is the same profit…. but different policy
PS the previous verson also overpriced but this one the 4th gen is more….
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 8:31 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS I do love the way people use the word ‘fact’. This is my opinion, based on 30 years in the electronics industry.
Firstly you need to know the parts used in the XCR tracer, I’d be very surprised if any one not involved in the design and manufacturing knows this. You are assuming your parts are the same as the ones you have bought, they may, or may not be.
Secondly you need to know the price paid for the parts, sadly there is a huge disparity between China and the USA and Europe, I was able to buy a Bosche BMP280 pressure sensor module for 2 euros including carriage from AliExpress, the sensor on its own, no PCB etc, is nearer double that in Europe.
I’m guessing you haven’t paid duty or VAT on your bits !
Factor that in and the normal commercial reality that the raw cost of manufacturing something is usually only a small proportion of the sales cost after R&D, software, packaging, dealer margin etc. etc.
I hope your project is successful and look forward to seeing it on YouTube, I have 3 home made flying instruments, all fun projects, but none of them anywhere near as good as even my 30 year old Aircotec Alibi- probably my lack of skill.
I don’t own an XC Tracer, it’s a tad pricey for me, but I think it grossly unfair to knock the supplier and by inference the customer base, something can only truly be deemed overpriced if people are not prepared to pay for it.
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 9:29 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS GrahamCedricSmith you’re delivering opinions and xcm is presenting facts. You should go pay your VAT.
It is fair to say XC Tracer Mini IV GPS is overpriced, and to assume low grade components (lower than xcm has) when they’re not publishing in-depth technical details. I would say they’re fishing for suckers. Their is nothing innovative about the XC Tracer Mini IV GPS, they’re not even using dual-frequency GPS, or RTK GPS, if they were they would want their customers to know. I wouldn’t recommend the XC Tracer Mini IV GPS for more than 30€. For the price they’re asking there are many better alternatives available.
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 9:35 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Plesase dont state what I never mentioned. I am not Munro to take apart but if you already made 3 devices both of us know the price, and yes I dont have to pay Tax or VAT and I also did not order over 100, 1000 10000 part to get discount… and your final conclusion was the same as mine.
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 11:35 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS xcm wrote: … it is not my opinion, it is FACT that a way overpriced. (or we have different point of view)
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Points of views should only matter with opinions not with facts…
Facts?! A big word – in my opinion you are comparing apples and oranges (your project and a market-ready finished product) and you have far too little knowledge about the XCTracer to speak of facts here – that is my opinion – but what I know for sure (and what therefore is a FACT) is that my XCTracer II Flarm has only been charged by the sun while flying during more than two seasons!
That should give you food for thoughts! If and when you have finished your project and it delivers performancewise the same as an XCTracer (energy autonomy, mature bug-free code, error-free function), then let us know the effective production costs and the sum of your development hours – I might then be your first customer.
Also, please don’t forget that the device is assembled in Switzerland, probably one of the most expensive production locations in the world.
I look forward to seeing your finished vario and your final verdict on the market prices of the XCTracer.
In my opinion, it is the same idle discussion when you add up the costs of the individual parts of a smartphone and then get upset about what a rip-off the manufacturer is doing… The entire R&D costs are simply ignored.
I think your project is cool, but I find the disparagement of a market-ready finished product unnecessary and unfair, at least until you prove otherwise. Points of views should only matter with opinions not with facts…Facts?! A big word – in my opinion you are comparing apples and oranges (your project and a market-ready finished product) and you have far too little knowledge about the XCTracer to speak of facts here – that is my opinion – but what I know for sure (and what therefore is a FACT) is that my XCTracer II Flarm has only been charged by the sun while flying during more than two seasons!That should give you food for thoughts! If and when you have finished your project and it delivers performancewise the same as an XCTracer (energy autonomy, mature bug-free code, error-free function), then let us know the effective production costs and the sum of your development hours – I might then be your first customer.Also, please don’t forget that the device is assembled in Switzerland, probably one of the most expensive production locations in the world.I look forward to seeing your finished vario and your final verdict on the market prices of the XCTracer.In my opinion, it is the same idle discussion when you add up the costs of the individual parts of a smartphone and then get upset about what a rip-off the manufacturer is doing… The entire R&D costs are simply ignored.I think your project is cool, but I find the disparagement of a market-ready finished product unnecessary and unfair, at least until you prove otherwise.
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 11:52 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Nobody is making you buy one and there are much cheaper alternatives, like the wonderful Bluefly (with piggyback GPS module) @ <£100. If you want to make your own, happy days, but it's really not constructive or helpful to tell everyone that it's a rip-off. I have an XC Tracer Flarm and I'm very happy with it and consider it good value for what it gives me - never needs charging (solar powered), bluetoothed to my eink running XC Track, instant audio feedback, onboard gps logging, highly-configurable, allowing me to hone a tone profile that works for me + FLARM visibility for my unit. When I had a problem, Koni sorted it straight away and shipped me a replacement unit. Buy it or don't buy it - it's up to you and if you have anything constructive to add then all good. x c m Joined: 07 Nov 2009 Posts: 219 Post karma: +147 / -92 Location: HUN Joined: 07 Nov 2009Posts: 219Location: HUN Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 15:35 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS [quote="b8fly"] xcm wrote: ... it is not my opinion, it is FACT that a way overpriced. Read carefully and please also dont state what I never told. I build it for myself not for market. If u are interested I will upload video. Doest matter my opinion or yours, it is FACT that overpriced compare to cost of parts . (or PCB is made of gold) Thats all. Yes, XCtrack has a great software, I never suggest or stated its opposite. U can find on the market different brands which are also good... Now I see how much does it cost to build one and just for the software its overpriced. Anyway (not on race) but sometimes I switch off the sound and just thermalling my buttvario...more fun.... anyway, dont know the actual battery inside I just think it could be 300mA or 150mA, also dont know the solar panel working curent, but the form is: T=Ah/A of course the angle of sun is also important, T e g a n Q u i n Joined: 11 Sep 2015 Posts: 87 Post karma: +84 / -6 Location: Toronto, Canada Joined: 11 Sep 2015Posts: 87Location: Toronto, Canada Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 23:45 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS FYI this thing wont stop charging. I take it outside in the shade and it keeps bumping up in percentage while I am setting up. So I would not worry about the battery and solar panel. It works. _________________ paraglideXC.com A n u b i s 1 9 6 4 Joined: 27 Sep 2011 Posts: 424 Post karma: +450 / -49 Location: Ticino, Switzerland Joined: 27 Sep 2011Posts: 424Location: Ticino, Switzerland Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 9:45 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS If I look at the XC Tracer and I compare with the BlueFlyVario, the BlueFlyVario of Alastair delivers the same (Vario, GPS, Bluetooth) with 1/3 or even less of the XC Tracer price. So it is fact that it is less expensive, as pointed out by others. Yes it has no solar panel but if you want to tell me the solar panel is worth alone 200 CHF ... Since I work in the IT industry and it is my job to deliver end to end HW/SW solutions (end to end: from building a business case, to design, development, testing, documenting, delivering and maintaining) I spent some time looking at the manuals of the XCTracer and the BlueFlyvario ones, just a few remarks here and there: 1. The BlueFlyVario vario samples every 20ms so 50 times per second and the GPS chip updates every second (1Hz, it is a normal GPS and not a faster 10 Hz or 20 Hz one). This is something I can understand. If I look at the XC Tracer manual I get real-time GPS data and lag-free lift/sink data, whatever those statements mean... 2. Both are fully configurable in terms of lift/sink tones and thresholds, but the BlueFlyVario has a nice app which can connect via Bluetooth to the vario and I can configure everything with that app and test it within the app. You can change any parameter at any time, whereas with the XC Tracer you have to connect the vario to a PC via an USB cable, edit a configuration file with a text editor and then stop/restart the vario to having it re-process the configuration files. 3. I found the way of setting tones on the XC Vario more powerful and sophisticated, but also difficult to setup and therefore error prone. Example to clarify: "tone=6.00,1234,332,62" What does that mean? It is a tone setup, activated when you have a 6 m/s lift, with a frequency of 1234 Hz, duration of 332 ms and tone audible for 62% of those 332ms. Powerful, yet complex. 4. The manual is ambiguous when describing how to setup those tones, but it could be a language issue: " You must define exactly 12 tones. Additional tones will be deleted from the configuration file, and missing tones will be complemented with values stored in the Eeprom. " if I must define exactly 12 tones how can I have any missing tone then? 5. Or here: this is how you propagate errors instead of fixing them (it is called defensive programming, I wrote software for a living for too many years...) - in the manual it is written: " pilotName=Koni Schafroth Enter your name here. Please don’t use accidentally use any tabs as they will invalidate the IGC file. " NO. I do not want to make a 8 hours flight breaking the 500 km record and then not be able to upload my IGC. I do want instead an application that, once started, will process the configuration file and stop if there is any blocking error, making a sad "beep-boop" so I can understand something is wrong. Extra points for writing a text file called "parsing log.txt" which I can open and see something like "Error: PilotName entry at line 12: Tabs in the text". 6. The BlueFlyVario manual states clearly that battery duration depends on several factors: buzzer level, bluetooth transmit frequency and sink/lift thresholds and beep frequency. If you configure your vario to emit a sink rate all the time you will drain your battery faster. On the XC tracer vario manual I found a very vague statement about this. Yet the technology and the working principles are 100% the same. 7. I can easily open the BlueFlyVario and either replace the battery with a new one, or put a more powerful battery with the same form factor. Now, I am not saying the XC Tracer is a bad product or has a bad manual. Only that a far less expensive product with similar (or equal, aside from the solar panel) features has a better manual and better usability/user experience/ease of use. Why the higher cost then? Since I live and work in Switzerland I can toss a few facts on the table: (1) Labor costs compared to any neighborhood countries is incredibly high. It is not uncommon for people in the rich Zurich to cross the border and go to Germany to have their Audis, BMWs, Mercedes etc serviced abroad, it costs far less than doing the same in CH. Same for a lot of other services (e.g. having a glider check: send it in Austria or wherever it is cheaper than doing the same CH, even considering the shipping costs on top). (2) Ditto for purchasing a lot of goods and services Everything in CH is more expensive. a l j k e n Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 244 Post karma: +163 / -10 Joined: 13 Dec 2009Posts: 244 Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 10:32 UTC Post subject: Bluefly vario vs XC Tracers You'll notice the biggest differences between these devices in the air when you're flying with them. The XC Tracer reacts instantly, whereas the Bluefly doens't - this is why it out performs the Bluefly. All the other points are pretty small print and you've mostly done a comparison of the manuals. Fly with it and you'll realise why the XCT is considered a better device. Alex. b 8 f l y Joined: 31 Jul 2008 Posts: 17 Post karma: +21 / -6 Joined: 31 Jul 2008Posts: 17 Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 11:04 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Anubis1964 wrote: If I look at the XC Tracer and I compare with the BlueFlyVario, the BlueFlyVario of Alastair delivers the same (Vario, GPS, Bluetooth) with 1/3 or even less of the XC Tracer price. So it is fact that it is less expensive, as pointed out by others. Yes it has no solar panel but if you want to tell me the solar panel is worth alone 200 CHF ... ... 1. The BlueFlyVario vario samples every 20ms so 50 times per second and the GPS chip updates every second (1Hz, it is a normal GPS and not a faster 10 Hz or 20 Hz one). This is something I can understand. If I look at the XC Tracer manual I get real-time GPS data and lag-free lift/sink data, whatever those statements mean... ... 'delivers the same' and 'whatever those statements mean...' How can you come to this conclusion and at the same time state that you do not understand the product? If you don't understand -> get smart!
I’ll repeat it again: If you compare a Bluefly Vario with the XCTracer (and call them both equal), then you have absolutely missed the point of the XCTracer.
First and foremost: XCTracer combines the barometric measurement data with the data from motion sensors and thus enables a lag-free signal – barometric-only variometers always have a lag, because the noise of the pressure sensor signal makes filtering necessary.
Secondly: energy efficiency – it is much harder to run something with very little energy than with an unlimited amount of energy. Saving energy – so that a ridiculously small solar cell is enough to run it – needs efficient hardware and equally efficient code.
If you don’t want these two things, then of course you buy for a much lower price an ordinary vario – be it a Bluefly or one of the countless cheap beepers on the market.
If you want lag-free and solar: Apart from XCTracer, I only know of LeGPSBip that follows this approach. ‘delivers the same’ and ‘whatever those statements mean…’How can you come to this conclusion and at the same time state that you do not understand the product?If you don’t understand -> get smart! https://xcmag.com/news/gear-news/xctracer-time-lag-free-vario/ I’ll repeat it again: If you compare a Bluefly Vario with the XCTracer (and call them both equal), then you have absolutely missed the point of the XCTracer.First and foremost: XCTracer combines the barometric measurement data with the data from motion sensors and thus enables a lag-free signal – barometric-only variometers always have a lag, because the noise of the pressure sensor signal makes filtering necessary.Secondly: energy efficiency – it is much harder to run something with very little energy than with an unlimited amount of energy. Saving energy – so that a ridiculously small solar cell is enough to run it – needs efficient hardware and equally efficient code.If you don’t want these two things, then of course you buy for a much lower price an ordinary vario – be it a Bluefly or one of the countless cheap beepers on the market.If you want lag-free and solar: Apart from XCTracer, I only know of LeGPSBip that follows this approach.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2021 15:01 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS
It’s about the algorithms, mathematics, about the knowledge of kalman filters, of the ‘fusion’ of sensors….
and that in a neat housing, and quite properly integrated. Probably also the reason it was not open sourced
Probably the price is too high from a pure electronics view.
Whatever, it just works reliably…
Can’t compare with bluefly anymore, lost that one and that was the reason for buying the Xctracer II FLARM.
I still have the Skybean Skydrop , and that is also a good device.
Enough choice, for whatever wallet XCTracer can’t be compared with (most) other vario’s.It’s about the algorithms, mathematics, about the knowledge of kalman filters, of the ‘fusion’ of sensors….and that in a neat housing, and quite properly integrated. Probably also the reason it was not open sourcedProbably the price is too high from a pure electronics view.Whatever, it just works reliably…Can’t compare with bluefly anymore, lost that one and that was the reason for buying the Xctracer II FLARM.I still have the Skybean Skydrop , and that is also a good device.Enough choice, for whatever wallet
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2021 15:31 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Hello, I’ll leave the price discussion here just to talk about the perception after 30h with the XCTracer IV.
To be known : I’ve been happily using a Brauniger IQ Soniq on my helmet for the last ten years (about 800h, it flew more as I bought it second hand ) which is a displayless sound only vario with a Lithium (one off) battery supposed to last 200h. I like to have the vario behind my helmet to be able to set the volume low as when you go faster the sound of the vario isn’t too much hidden in the noise.
There were three reasons why I wanted to get something else :
1 When the IQ Soniq battery runs out (which would happen after about 150h usually) you have no warning and have to turn it off quickly as it makes silly noise which made compulsary to keep on the cockpit my previous Brauniger IQ Basic or whatever it is called, which has a display for instant and average lift and for baro altitude (I would turn on its sound when the IQ Soniq battery runs out and do with it even with a lot more lag than my IQ Sonic).
->I thought the solar panel on the XCTracer would make the battery to last forever while I had to change the Soniq’s after 140h as a preventive action.
2 I think I am quite bad at finding thermals and may be even worse at turning smoothly while I am tryning to interpret where is the max lift. I was told by good friend pilots that the lagfree vario is of some help, I knew it could be double sword edge as lagfree also means sensitive to gust lift (I noticed gliders are using a bottle to give lag to their vario and kinetic energy compensation, which is completely the opposite idea of having the lag free 0.05m height increase to make a beep).
->I though I might be better at finding/optimising thermalling.
3 I joined a group of pilots last year and they run unofficial tasks regularly and send them as a file with XCTrack format so I started using this soft on my Redmi phone and had to make space on my cockpit, getting rid off either my IQ basic vario and/or my C60 Garmin GPS. The phone’s GPS turned out to be so bad that I had chaotic readings on altitude (jumps up to +-100m in 1s happened very often). Using phone as altimeter was not possible, not talking about lift rate values or glide ratio.
->I thought the XCTracer would be able to send altitude values through BLE and enhance the readings in XCTrack for altitude, sink rate and glide ratio, effectively allowing me to get rid off both my old intruments on the cockpit.
Now what I think after using the XCTracer and the BLE on XCTrack for 30h:
1 At first I put the XCTracer on my shoulder as the manual says avoid the helmet because the head’s movement would disturb the “lagfree” algorithm and this option seems to be good to have sun to keep the battery charged. I was disappointed as the battery level would always be lower after 1-2h of fliyng by as much as around 10% (level given through BLE to XCTrack). A friend flying about ten hours a week told me he has to charge his version XCTracer GPS III up about every other week while one using the XCTRacer II vario only says he never has to charge it. They both use it on their helmet and because the shoulder is not good enough to keep the battery running forever I decided to put mine behind my helmet too as it is a better signal/noise ratio to me. Being on the helmet doesn’t seem to be a problem to the lagfree algorithm, neither for my friends nor for me.
->I have to admit I am a bit disappointed as I hoped to forget about battery problems every 140h while now I have to charge it every 20h ! Something I didn’t expect : the sound is so loud, even at the lowest value, that I had to put a little bit of tape on the hole (Koni said it is OK and the only way to make it less loud, no firmware update possible even if the 3 values for sound are all about the same strength), I made sure the solar panel is only covered by a few mm² of translucid tape, the USB hole keeps the pressure value good. To be fair, another friend is using the XCTracer GPS III on his cockpit (which I do not want to do) and says he does never have to charge it (I forgot to ask if he gets his igc tracks downloaded on a computer which might charge the battery in the mean time).
2 It took me some time to get used to a new “music” but I knew it would be the case and I got some files to make it more like my old vario sound, with, hopefully, less lag.
-> After 30h I would say I am somewhere near my previous thermalling ability. Very difficult to say if slighly better or slightly worse but I would say it is reacting faster as wind gusts from front give very quickly a beep. I am surprised though that when I land it keeps beeping somethimes for a few seconds (at least 3 sometimes) while I do not move and my threshold is +0.2m/s to beep and +0.15 to stop.
3 So far I only used the GPS altitude transmitted to my phone to update XCTrack values (not the baro), it works very well… now it does say exactly the same as may C60 Garmin for altitude and speed (wasn’t the case until I set the screen update to 2Hz in XCTrack instead of 1Hz as I was trying to save battery at first). The sink rate values look good (I did not compare to a baro but it seems in sync with the C60 values, which are not supposed to be ultimate regarding sink rate. The only disappointment here is not from XCTracer but from XCTrack : I cannot find a way to average the glide ratio values, they are completely useless (going from 4 to 16 very quickly while my old C60 gives something very useful).
Now, my situation compared to the one 5 years ago is :
– better because I can use XCTrack and therefore easily enter a task and do it, I may have improved or will improve my thermalling efficiency,
– not better because I have to be more careful about having my battery charged in the XCTracer, I have to have a battery for my phone to run XCTrack. I may have not improved my thermalling efficiency. I have no better in flight information than with my old GPS C60 Garmin if I am not doing a task, even worse as the glide ratio values are not usable on XCTrack as far as I am concerned.
All in all, if my phone had had a decent GPS altitude I would say the added value of XCTracer vs IQ Sonic is not very easy to estimate.
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:40 UTC Post subject: Compass Hello,
Do you know if this xctracer model also includes a compass?
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 9:59 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS What is the difference between XCTracer III and IV? As of now, their website does not say anything.
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 10:39 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Yes, it does:
“There is a new XC Tracer, XC Tracer Mini IV GPS. It’s basically an XC Tracer Mini III GPS with USB-C. The MIVG has the same sensors as the XC Tracer Maxx. What’s new with the MIVG is that data is only transmitted via BLE in flight.”
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 13:07 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS fly-video.net wrote: Yes, it does:
“There is a new XC Tracer, XC Tracer Mini IV GPS. It’s basically an XC Tracer Mini III GPS with USB-C. The MIVG has the same sensors as the XC Tracer Maxx. What’s new with the MIVG is that data is only transmitted via BLE in flight.”
I did not see it, it is not on the product page, but thank you!
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 19:30 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS hookxs wrote: What is the difference between XCTracer III and IV? As of now, their website does not say anything.
It is cheaper now, just 350.
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 7:17 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS
That said I ended up flying with the xctracers and works for me… It is a fact that utility is subjective, the price is a result of market forces (which are all based on subjective valuation), therefore the idea that ‘something is overpriced’ is not a fact but a subjective statementThat said I ended up flying with the xctracers and works for me…
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 9:35 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS ondrap wrote: , therefore the idea that ‘something is overpriced’ is not a fact but a subjective statement
This is just your subjective opinion!
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Posted: Sat May 15, 2021 19:03 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS xcm wrote: ondrap wrote: , therefore the idea that ‘something is overpriced’ is not a fact but a subjective statement
This is just your subjective opinion! Actually not, it’s really mainstream economics. It may be wrong, obviously, but nobody questioned it for the last 150 years… Actually not, it’s really mainstream economics. It may be wrong, obviously, but nobody questioned it for the last 150 years…
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 8:33 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS ondrap wrote: xcm wrote: ondrap wrote: , therefore the idea that ‘something is overpriced’ is not a fact but a subjective statement
This is just your subjective opinion! Actually not, it’s really mainstream economics. It may be wrong, obviously, but nobody questioned it for the last 150 years… Actually not, it’s really mainstream economics. It may be wrong, obviously, but nobody questioned it for the last 150 years…
uhhh, one more guy who is talking about different topic. Nobody mentioned that it cant be sell…
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 21:18 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Will reach out to Koni next, but was hoping someone here might know:
Since the Mini IV has the same sensors as the Maxx, does anyone know if it makes the same wind speed and direction calculations as the Maxx? If it does, will it send that data to Flyskyhy?
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 1:32 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Improved wind estimation is now in XCT II Flarm wich is not maxx nor IV. As I remember Koni has mentioned that same feature will be introduced also for mini III.
If IV has no wind estimation yet, it probably gonna get it soon, or “soon” I should say.
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 16:25 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS
https://www.xctracer.com/en/76/?oid=1905&lang=en&news_eintragId=183
Also, I used the Maxx on a couple of flights and the wind indicators are very good (was quite a bit more accurate than what Flyskyhy was showing me). According to the site, the Maxx has improved wind speed/direction calculation:Also, I used the Maxx on a couple of flights and the wind indicators are very good (was quite a bit more accurate than what Flyskyhy was showing me).
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Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 22:00 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS If it helps anyone with the same setup, I heard back from René at Flyskyhy. Flyskyhy uses its own calculations for wind speed and direction and does not take into account the data it receives from the XCTracer.
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Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 22:40 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS xcm wrote: (one thing what is funny for me, the solar panel..16square cm of panel doesnt enough for charge the batt (even if it is small one, 3.6V, 300mA???) one sunny day! count it!
I would suggest that part of what you are paying for when buying an Xctracer is the knowledge of someone who knows how to make that little tiny solar panel able to run the vario.
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 15:50 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS this is the difference between us, this is basic physics knowledge from school!
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 15:51 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS [/quote]
I would suggest that part of what you are paying for when buying an Xctracer is the knowledge of someone who knows how to make that little tiny solar panel able to run the vario.[/quote]
this is the difference between us, this is basic physics knowledge from school!
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 15:52 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS …..
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 19:14 UTC Post subject: XC tracer experience Hi,
I was sent few emails to XCtracer for to buy one,
I even request invoice in advance for to pay, with delivery when will be available, but noone even answering. I try few times to send email, but noone cares in XCtracer.
I cannot imagine, how service works, if they dont even care about buyer, contacting them by him self, want to pay in advance, not hurry to recieve goods from them. Even this is not enough for to answer….
Thats my experience with XCtracer.
Anyone know any similar vario?
Looking for sensitivity, bluetooth, good battery life, usb C charging.
Thanks Mirek
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 19:54 UTC Post subject: Re: XC tracer experience Mirek* wrote: Hi,
I was sent few emails to XCtracer for to buy one,
I even request invoice in advance for to pay, with delivery when will be available, but noone even answering. I try few times to send email, but noone cares in XCtracer.
I cannot imagine, how service works, if they dont even care about buyer, contacting them by him self, want to pay in advance, not hurry to recieve goods from them. Even this is not enough for to answer….
Thats my experience with XCtracer.
Anyone know any similar vario?
Looking for sensitivity, bluetooth, good battery life, usb C charging.
Thanks Mirek
What happens when you click the “buy now” button on their website? I did that lately and the vario showed up on my doorstep a few days later…
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 20:39 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Did they start shipping again? The xctracer website still shows the Mini and the Maxx as “out of stock”
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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:17 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS
The issue is the sensitivity. Placed on the table left alone it will spontaneously beep for 10 seconds or more. In flight or just walking around with it is no different. Sink alarm goes off for no apparent reason as well. Sometimes it will ring it’s tits off like it’s in a 7m climb stationery outside.
Done a factory reset and checked settings. Everything normal.
Straight out of the box and only used once.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/yifJJp6YFNh7JDSq5 Hi all I have a malfunctioning xctracer mini 4. This is my second one loved the mini 2.The issue is the sensitivity. Placed on the table left alone it will spontaneously beep for 10 seconds or more. In flight or just walking around with it is no different. Sink alarm goes off for no apparent reason as well. Sometimes it will ring it’s tits off like it’s in a 7m climb stationery outside.Done a factory reset and checked settings. Everything normal.Straight out of the box and only used once.
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 13:56 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Hey i’m curious what are the alternatives to the XC tracer mini IV ?
Why did they dropped flarm when it was on the II ?
Anyone compared it side by side with another vario in the same category to see if the claim about latency are true ?
I think it’s expensive but if the feedback is way more direct its worth some more money than the alternatives
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 15:55 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS It’s worth the money imho. The customization, solar panel, great sound quality. And it’s just pleasant to look at. I wish a hard shell would be included to put over it when it’s not used. There’s a bag, but it’s kinda lame to take it off the cockpit everytime to put in a bag.
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 16:15 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS I have a mini, and made a soft shell using a neoprene mouse pad.
With such setup there is no need to remove the xctracer as there is no need to charge it, and it always stays on my cockpit
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 17:12 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS When not in use I keep my xctracer II Flarm in an old memory foam case which used to hold my old garmin car satnav. It’s the perfect size.
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 20:53 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS Latest news from xctracer website:
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Delivery time XC Tracer
24.01.2022
We too are affected by the global shortage of electronic components. In some cases components are only available from brokers where they are offered at prices up to a hundred times more expensive than previously, and often from dubious sources where the proper functionality of the chips is not known or guaranteed.
All this makes it impossible for us to produce our XC Tracer varios to our usual high quality, and of course, we’re not willing to compromise here.
Because of this, both delivery times and prices for XC Tracer varios are currently unknown – we will obviously communicate them as soon as we can. Please rest assured we are working our hardest to find solutions and we ask for your patience and understanding.
It will be worth the wait!
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 16:14 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS I am XC Tracer dealer and I have some devices on stock.
Who is interested – write me PM.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 14:31 UTC Post subject: RE: XC Tracer Mini IV GPS dzintars wrote: I am XC Tracer dealer and I have some devices on stock.
Who is interested – write me PM.
Hi Dzintars, I am after an XC tracer as well if you can please PM me.
Appearanly new users cannot send PM until I respond to a post
Hi Dzintars, I am after an XC tracer as well if you can please PM me.Appearanly new users cannot send PM until I respond to a post
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